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My post about disliking how salespeople intrude on me hit a chord. The simple fact is that this isn't going to change and my only options are not shopping in stores or learning to deal with it. Dealing with it is probably going to be a statement along the lines of "I'm just looking right now, but I'll find you if I have any questions."

Apparently most of my female friends are introverts, which is probably something I could have figured out if I'd bothered to calculate it.

It does underline that it's an extroverted world out there and I'll always be a little off in it. Not to the point where it's discriminatory you understand. More that I have to put up with lots of little indignities analogous to what a left-handed person must go through. To get things done I always have to go outside of my comfort zone. Making phone calls when I'd rather email for example. I'm never going to be the head of a company or an elected official because I'll never be comfortable doing the glad-handing that's required. Leadership roles self-select for extroverts. Humans are social creatures and extroverts are simply better at being social. Routine social interaction is something I learned only with difficulty and a lot of time and observation.

The two biggest problems are dating (regular readers know that crippling social anxiety is one of the two things keeping me from dating) and what I call the introvert-tax. The introvert-tax is whenever you pay full price for some big-ticket item where all the extroverts know the price is negotiable. Cars are a big one, and I'm very happy that some brands have abolished this practice.

Casual observers might doubt that I (or the numerous ladies who responded to the earlier post) are introverts. Certainly we don't act that way when we're in comfortable surroundings like an SCA event, and that might lead people to thinking we're like that all the time. This suggests to me that for most of human history being an introvert wasn't a drawback. It's certainly not a problem when you're comfortable with your tribe-mates. It's only when societies grow to the point where routine interaction with strangers is required that it becomes a problem. Mostly the "problem" is just the constant low-level stress of having to be around people and it's easily treated with self-imposed time-outs. Rarely it's crippling and the time-outs consume one's life and you become a recluse. I'm somewhere in the middle. I can function reasonably well, but there are large chunks of my life that I'm not satisfied with because of it.

Date: 2010-12-07 08:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snooness2
Yes. This.

Date: 2010-12-08 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danceintheabyss.livejournal.com
Well thats hitting the nail square in the head.
(though shouldn't that be round on the head as most nails I know of are round headed.... shrug)

Date: 2010-12-08 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catalytic.livejournal.com
Ditto. I'm having to make more and more phone calls as part of my job and I'm learning more and more just how much of a Sysiphus-ian stone that part of my job is going to be. I don't foresee it ever becoming easier.

Date: 2010-12-08 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] conejita-diabla.livejournal.com
I don't necessarily think that disliking sales people = introvert, mind you...pushy sales people are annoying all round, in my opinion.
From: [identity profile] wild-wanderer.livejournal.com
btw although I am an introvert, I do love to bargain. While car companies may claim they have a set price, it is not exactly true.

They may not be allowed to change the base price, but they can throw things in (air conditioning,cruise control, block heater, delivery, upgraded stereo...). these items can definitely add up. I know this from personal experience with me and my brother buying from Saturn.

Date: 2010-12-09 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bow-bitch.livejournal.com
One can be an introvert and a leader. I am an introvert and I've been told I'm a good leader - but its HARD and it take time to master. Self care is VITAL. When in the 'eye of the storm' - when you're being overwhelmed on both sides (as has happened as both an autocrat and a Princess) self care is vital. Retreat, regroup, breathe and breathe again before tackling the issues and facing the people who need you.

Date: 2010-12-09 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bow-bitch.livejournal.com
on a similar vein, I wonder about the ratio of introvert/extroverts to the three peerage tracks? My guess is that introverts dominate the pelicans, but don't know if that's actually true.

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